Line 6 HX Stomp VS Helix!

by: Peach Guitars

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okay hello everyone its jack from peach here I'm here today with Stuart from Yamaha and we're focusing on the brand new line 6 HX stomp and we're going to create a series of videos based on the fact that rather than create one long review video what we wanted to do was kind of break it down into segments of what people are actually going to use this product for so then that you can just view the product view the videos that you want to see and address the issues that you want to address so what we're going to do here is compare it to its Big Brother which is the full-size Hilux and I think this is a question that a lot of people are going to come across is what's kind of the purpose for this new HX stomp so maybe you want to just give us a bit of background as to what inspired the design of small form-factor and how it compares to the big boy sure yeah I'd like to say that most of the conversations I had over the past weeks since this has really landed have been with existing Hilux owners so real interest from guys are already own Hilux as to why they should have this in addition as well the way it compares to this is very simply everything that is in the full Hilux or you know LT is in the HX stomp so you've still got the 200 cabs effects 77 legacy effects all of this stuff is still in this you've still got the same updates it's effectively it's the same unit just it's like same engine different chassis but yeah okay so also to that point then all the tones that you can hear in this video what we're going to do is compare because I'm kind of a bee and just the fur a few disclaimers in there obviously we are different players but we've set these units up so that they're running at the same sort of gain level and every time we make a change on one unit we're going to make the exactly the same change to the other yeah because there are some operational differences with the way you navigate full helix or your LT and the HX stomp as well it is very very simple to use and we're going to show that there's really little in the way of limitations when comparing the two yeah okay so as you can see on the screens we've both got completely blank presets set up so what we'll do we'll just add in an amp block you straight away so to do that I'm just going to add it the first thing in my chain here and we'll scroll down to amp and cab and I'm not going to even mess around with this and it's gonna put in the first one so this this first term first amp model is like a high 100 watt high watt amplifier I'm going to leave all the stock settings as they are not going to touch the cabinet emulation either which is some raw ribbon microphone pretty standard stuff so I think maybe Stewart if you add in exactly the same block yeah I'll do the same and you'll see it's exactly the same operation really there we go there comes my menu scroll down amping cab guitar and then straightaway yeah we should have the same thing same default settings as well but all contained within that one screen yeah so as I said before you're gonna hear slightly different tones because we're playing different guitars yeah because there's a definite talent deficit here I don't know I think we'll see but the point is that we just want to highlight how easy it is and how it compares to setup the same kind of tones and go about the business that you would go about on this unit in exactly the same way and it's very used as we'll see so you want just just just gives a lick and I will give you a look back okay so just I'll just play some open core so you can just get an idea for the tone [Music]

it's gonna be strange like having a 20 second delay on or something if I'm just going to here we're gonna mirror each other so hopefully that will come across that the tones are identical yeah Gabe we'll take the differences between the playing and the guitars the tones are identical so and that's that's a great tone I literally just plunked in the first ant model didn't touch it at all and [Music] and this is something we're gonna come on to discuss in one of the upcoming video so I said we're gonna detail further about the quality of the modeling that's in this unit that was so dynamic they're just turning back the guitar volume a little bit picking a little more softly or digging in it really affects the way that the the model responds it's not like a kind of flat sound at all no it's real and that we'll come to that later the component level modeling again that same response that same playing experience you're going to get with HX Tom yeah so should we keep on going and we'll start to like for like us I like the idea that what we're doing here is showing the operation of HX stomp compared to its Big Brother and how simple it is so the main focus here so we're not going to get into kind of the the differences in all the things that this can do and all the things that that can do because we're going to detail everything the HX can do in separate videos but the point is how can you set up the same sounds yeah so let's let's keep going start knocking some some pedals in there and I'll do the same so what I'm going to do I'm going to put I'm just going to move this block along and in front of it I'm gonna add a bit of distortion from my favorites the year the first one which is like a clone clone so again I'm not going to touch any of the settings I'm just gonna play you the tone without the without the effect and then I'm going to add it in and then you can create the same exact signal path so here's the dry tone [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]

okay so I'll do the same move it along so we've got the room back here drop in

Mike lon I've got a gate on there just for the noise [Music] [Applause] [Music] so again just putting in the first effects that we found the sound is great and it's and it literally copy straight across so one thing that we didn't mention there was just about kind of the way you actually are able to manipulate the controls so there's quite a lot of the same controls from helix that find their way onto this aren't this so it talked about how you would actually like we just moved a couple of blocks around and simple stuff like that so the actions are the same so same with the big helix if you want to move something highlight it press action and then exactly the same we can move this around but this top control here is not like the pot on your big helix where it's it's a joystick this isn't a joystick we've just got to turn it and that will drop the block in and out where we want it and obviously with the HX you've got six blocks at a time so there's not as much maneuvering that you need to do as with something like this where there's up to about 32 at a time and that's that's the first difference that you're going to notice is that we've got limited to six blocks to paths for a lot of guys they don't really want more than that and a couple of a couple of good pedals and a good ampere sim as well well just taking a look at the blank preset here on the helix screen you can see there's only two things on at the moment but by default the first thing you're met with is two completely blank lines into which you can add eight blocks each yeah so to some to somebody that first powers this up it could be a little bit daunting to think what am I supposed to do in all this space whereas with that it's much more much more simplistic yeah it's and that comes that brings us to the first idea behind HX stomp that yeah it's a great backup for if you have an exist if you're an already existing helix so now it's a great backup for your your px it's a great flier rig but also if you're new to this entire world not just helix digital modeling it's a great in yeah because your sport for choice you can get kind of too bogged down in the choices and the the dialing through different parameters and deep editing you don't have to do that yeah very simple to use so let's just then continue and we're talking about the operation of actually how you might use it maybe in a live context so something that people want to know is how you will go about assigning these individual blocks to the switches are available so in the helix you can see there's 12 these are called scribbled strips so each of those could say that five times fast I will not but you can correspond that to switch in different things so you know theoretically if you had in this case 10 effects units you could assign 10 effects units and switch them on on and off manually couldn't you now with the eight checks you've only got the three switches which might seem like a limitation at first but you can go about in different ways can't you exactly it's just creative navigation yes so it's not really that much of a limitation once you see how it works so with full helix you have all of those foot switches potentially laid out in front of you and they could be your snapshots your bank up-and-down or they could be snapshots and pedals we've got the same thing here at the moment I'm in edit mode so I can see exactly what's happening with the amp is all laid out there in front of me like this now if I hit view that changes things and this is determining what these foot switches are doing so we've got in this mode preset up and down next page over that's a bank of three presets and then there's our snapshots which we should mention we have a separate video just for snapshots coming up yeah and then this would bring me to stomp mode so these are now representing I've got the set up as a tap tempo and tuner doesn't have to be this we can change that in the Preferences but we've got two blank pedals waiting to be assigned there okay so just to put that into context then what you're talking about the three buttons on there at the moment are set up and I'll try and explain how that compares to this so the bottom right here you've got the same tap and tuner button by default you can't change that on the regular helix but on the HX you you could make that anything you want so if I was to add let's say I want to take this Kalon and and assign it to this switch here to turn it on and off so all you would do is touch your finger against the side of the button for a second or two it will ask you if you want to assign this foot switch to that block okay oh I just missed it I'll hit okay and so now this button here I've told it to switch on and off the Kalon so it works in exactly the same way we can do exactly the same so I just highlight the pedal I want which was our clone changed the view which is the only real difference like this make sure that I'm in stomp mode and then all I do same again touch the side of the pedal assign it and then you have it I know so it's really easy there's no real learning curve to that in terms of how to assign things to your buttons and as I said before it here he looks oh no this is really intuitive it's very very easy to use if you're new to it you can figure this out yourself it's very very straightforward yeah so like Stuart said we are going to get onto snapshots as a bigger issue an entirely separate video but just as a very brief overview what it enables you to do is essentially create presets within your preset so for example if you want to toggle on and off several effects at once with just one button press or if you want to equally tweak parameters within those effects so say you want one one setting where you've got your gain down low and then another setting where the same distortion effect is with the gain up high you can do that with snaps don't you and anything you I like to think of it as anything you can turn any pot you can turn anything you can adjust you can set to be affected by snapshot yeah yeah so I think maybe if we just add in one more effect so I'm gonna put in that I'll just change the year distortion there right I'm gonna add in one more delay effect and again I'm just gonna go for the very first simple delay block and not change any other settings it's quite prominent delay and I'm just going to sign the delay to this switch as well right next to the clone so here now I've only got three blocks in my chain I've got two buttons to switch on and off and you can do exactly the same thing echoing you just scroll across this is what I'm going to drop my delay in and with the HX stomp it's this button that opens all models drop in our simple delay and then we have it and did you roll your your mixtone to be doing a thing didn't do anything so just assign it to a pedal yeah I missed there as well there we go so once again I'll just give you an idea of what this tone is like again haven't tweak anything at all these are just the stock settings when you when you drop drop that block in there so here's a here's an a chord [Music]

[Music] [Applause] [Music] yeah it sounds the same so just to the end of kind of talk about utility there's so much that the full-size helix can do and in fact that was kind of part of the reason that the LT came about right was to just strip back a few of those features that some people felt they didn't need you know there's so many kind of ins and outs on this unit that you can use that some people just didn't want with the HX stomp it's kind of the same story you can still do your very basic stuff like you know plug the unit into the front end of an amp you can also still do for cable method so if you want to put certain effects in the effects loop and certain effects in the front of the amp you can do that because you still have as is displayed here to separate chains that you get assigned different so you can route things differently you can go wet try wet all of the same level of control that you have with LT and full-fat helix full version helix and equally you can just run this as a unit straight into the front of house yeah so that's exactly what we do it now both of these units just going straight into our recording interface we're not using any real amplifiers and as you can tell that they just sound exactly the same they operate in the same way we're not going to delve too much into each and every tone that's available because that take a long long time per videos to come yeah and we just wanted to kind of put across not only the quality of the tones that are in this unit but how easy it is to operate you know when you when you distill it down to the basics they are the same you just don't have certain things that this does but then not everyone wants them and it's worth pointing out that that's probably about one sixth of the size it really is that it's hard when we've got two separate cameras on this to see the perspective but they look actually quite comical I'm sure James can do something close yeah with that where this is really in terms of weight in terms of size this is this is a pocket rig you know this is really really small really light and this will take the place of wherever your full helix can't go yeah or your full ball of board for that matter or you know any any particular amp live setup that you have it just enables you to do a lot more you know it for me as a helix user when you're home you know if it's in your gig bag that you always take to you don't always want to get this which is quite a big you know it's funny that this was considered small and compact when it came out and now that is small and compact but you know sometimes you just want to sit and play guitar plugged into your computer or whatever and with a unit that's that size it's desktop you're much more likely to do that aren't you and something that we alluded to before I think it's quite useful is that if you want to delve into the really fine tuning stuff it's a little bit nicer to do it on that I think because of that intimate nature of it you know you don't have that massive expensive kind of overview of everything going on at once you can just focus on the details you want to focus on on the on the HX stomp so to summarize then there's kind of two mainly two types of people that that unit is going to be for right so we've discussed it someone who's coming from this world already yeah once this as they fly rig they're back up yeah and you know much of the utility is the same all the tones are the same you can just you know your back will thank you a little bit more and then there's the complete opposite end of the spectrum which is people that are brand new to modeling maybe you've avoided this thus far and just want to kind of yeah their cause and this is just a really good entry-level product that if you don't want too many options you want something that's manageable that's easy six blocks two paths you can't really go wrong with it very very simple yeah indeed so I hope that was a nice little introduction to HX for you guys if you want to see more content like I say we do have several feature videos coming that's really going to delve into the specifics of what that unit can do because there's so much you can do we didn't want to just sit and waffle on for an hour discussing it all and kind of blowing your minds you know if you want to see that you can but if not I hope that this videos so I'm going to be running some stuff on snapshots how to use those some of the the higher-end control level yeah we're going to delve into sort of you know running wet/dry rigs multiple amps and all that stuff but but for now I hope that's just a nice introduction to HX if you enjoyed this video guys you can subscribe to the channel and you can check out the upcoming video shortly so we hope to see you in one of those thanks again for watching Thank You Stuart for your insight to you and then we'll see you again soon thanks guys


More from this creator:
In part 2 of our HX Stomp series Jack and Stuart compare the Stomp to the Helix. Answering some common questions that existing owners have and also which one to go for; for people who are completely new to helix. *This video is not to show the tonal differences (as they use the same chip so sound exactly the same) but more to show how they differ in functionality and features. Find out more about the Stomp here:

Find out more about the full Helix here:

Part one:

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